Part one: The Music
I recently had the pleasure of speaking to one of Australia's most
successful and politically active musicians: Midnight Oil's Peter
Garrett. In part one of this two part interview, I ask Peter about the
consequences of melding music and politics, what we can expect from
Midnight Oil's two new albums and his secret for holding his band
together for over two decades. Next week, Peter talks about Pauline
Hanson's ability to "rip the scab off the festering sore of old time
racism", Native Title , and the "faustian pact" known as Uranium mining.
Debbie - Have you ever considered subduing your lyrics for a wider, more
mainstream audience!
Peter Garrett - Nope.
D - Do you think you've lost record sales because of that!
PG - It's impossible to judge what does and doesn't sell records.
D - Given the current popular musical climate, it's great that you're
still doing so well.
PG - It's a staggering and quite weird sort of subculture following that
Midnight Oil is lucky enough to have. It's people relating to music for
a whole suite of reasons which include the primal reasons of dance and
movement but also the words and the thrust of what the band sings about
and has been on about for a very long time.
D - You've written for Yothu Yindi. What lines from Treaty did you give
them a hand with!
PG - Paul Kelly and I met with Mandawuy when they were in Sydney and
they basically had most of it all in place so I can't remember the lines
themselves. When the vocals were being recorded I went into the studio
with Mandawuy and sang it through a few times with him just to, ease him
into a groove that might work for him. But when they offered me a formal
authorship 1 knocked it back because 1 didn't think it was anything
other than just helping out some other people. It was a pretty small
role.
D - John Williamson's Rig Rip Woodchip is rumoured to have alienated the
Tamworth country music festival organisers, and also some of the rural
population who were fans of his. Has Midnight Oil ever been publically
attacked by large organisations!
PG - We were denounced by Exxon when we played in the street in New
York. They closed off the streets in New York and we played the Exxon
protest gig. We've been castigated by some of the bigger companies in
the past including Western Mining Company, from memory, for presuming to
write about the effects mining had on miners or the environment. I think
there's a section of the population who simply find what we're saying
completely unpalatable even though we think it's solid.
D - How did you manage to block that street off!
PG - We pretended we were doing a film clip and just started playing.
Exxon had also spilt tens of thousands of litres of oil in New York's
river systems only a few weeks earlier so the city officials and the
police weren't too impressed with them and decided to give us free
reign.
D - So they knew what you were up to!
PG - When it dawned on them what was happening, they were very slow to
stop us.
D -You played right across the road from Exxon's office, didn't you!
PG - Yep. Right across from their office.
D - Is music a good medium for you in which to express these views!
PG - The primary purpose of Midnight Oil isn't to set up a political
agenda. That's not what we're doing. We are grasping out for songs and
words that quiver and have sharp edges. We're doing that as a band, as
songwriters in performance. Whether or not it finds some kind of mark
outside of the rehearsal room is something which we never really know or
even think that much there in the public domain, then it can have other
uses and applications both by=B7 the band and by other people, but that's
not the primary motivation tor writing them.
D - Have all your songs had a political theme even when you were in
Farm!
PG - No, and I don't think they all have a political theme now. I think
the remarkable thing about what Midnight Oil does is that it's not that
remarkable. We are surrounded by so much that is banal and superficial
that it tends to, stand our. But there are a number other acts in this
country, I'm thinking of people like: Paul Kelly, Weddings Parties
Anything, even Powderfinger who, in their own way, are on about the same
kinds of things.
D - Is there a lot of creative conflict between yourself and the other
band members!
PG - There's enough to keep it interesting. To hold it together without
it becoming stereotyped or boring after more than one or two albums
there has to be a certain amount of conflict, I think, to keep you
interested.
D - You've been around for over 20 years now, you definitely have a
formula that works.
PG - I wouldn't call it a formula.
D - What would you call it!
PG - I'd call it spinning the bottle to see what happens.
D - You're recording at the moment. When can we expect Midnight Oil's
next album!
PG - We've got a greatest hits collection coming out before the end of
the year that's called 20,000 Watt RSL and the new album that we've just
about finished will be coming out close to the new year.
D - How do you feel about this new album!
PG - I'm amazed that we've been able to go back into the studio and find
songs that have worked for us. We've done one of our characteristic
left-right turns. We've used a lot of samples. We've just got
something which works very well in a rhythmic sense and we just laid the
songs down very simply, but it's, in part I guess, a reaction to what's
going on around us in the country: Hansonism, Howardism and all the
comfortably numb diseases that it's quite a firey record.
Interview in Blitz Magazine, by Debbie